---
authors:
- Ajeya Cotra
- Robert Wiblin
citation:
  locator_schemes:
  - time
id: cotra_wiblin.80000-hours-crunch-time
kind: transcript
language: en
published_at: '2026-02-17'
title: '#235 – Ajeya Cotra on whether it’s crazy that every AI company’s safety plan
  is ‘use AI to make AI safe’'
url: https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/ajeya-cotra-transformative-ai-crunch-time/
---

# #235 – Ajeya Cotra on whether it’s crazy that every AI company’s safety plan is ‘use AI to make AI safe’

Original: <https://80000hours.org/podcast/episodes/ajeya-cotra-transformative-ai-crunch-time/>



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